* You get to sack two pawns ️
* It's never been played on lichess ️
* The computer likes it ️
* It's never been played on lichess ️
* The computer likes it ️
Stockfish thinks it is only +0.3 which isn't all that good. Still, for sacking 2 pawns its not terrible.
@End_Game_Flame said in #2:
> Stockfish thinks it is only +0.3 which isn't all that good. Still, for sacking 2 pawns its not terrible.
It says the starting position is +0.2, so how do you expect it to get much better than that? The only way that would be possible is if Black makes a mistake or inaccuracy.
> Stockfish thinks it is only +0.3 which isn't all that good. Still, for sacking 2 pawns its not terrible.
It says the starting position is +0.2, so how do you expect it to get much better than that? The only way that would be possible is if Black makes a mistake or inaccuracy.
9 turns is too long for an "opening" that both side are not making their best move. It is rather a branch instead of an opening I think.
Black is playing top engine moves except 4.. d6, but that one is very commonly played on lichess.
Black offers the d pawn to d5 and this balances out the game. Anywho these games are fun.
After 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5, is it very common to see 3...d6, rather than 3...Nf6 or 3...a6 ?
After 3...d6 4 d4, is 4...Bd7 perhaps more likely than 4...exd4 ?
After 3...d6 4 d4 exd4 5 O-O, is 5...Bg4 more likely than 5...Nf6 or 5...Bd7 ?
What happens after 3...d6 4 d4 exd4 5 O-O Bg4 6 c3 dxc3 7 h3 Bd7 8 Qb3 cxb2 9 Bxb2 Na5 ?
Is this a rhinoceros in name only?
After 3...d6 4 d4, is 4...Bd7 perhaps more likely than 4...exd4 ?
After 3...d6 4 d4 exd4 5 O-O, is 5...Bg4 more likely than 5...Nf6 or 5...Bd7 ?
What happens after 3...d6 4 d4 exd4 5 O-O Bg4 6 c3 dxc3 7 h3 Bd7 8 Qb3 cxb2 9 Bxb2 Na5 ?
Is this a rhinoceros in name only?
I personally wouldn't call something an "opening", if already the 3rd move (3. ...d6) is not even a sideline but below 1% in the MASTERS database. You shouldn't refer to the lichess DB, since there really is too much sillyness in it, ppl. trying out everything...
@derkleineJo said in #8:
> I personally wouldn't call something an "opening", if already the 3rd move (3. ...d6) is not even a sideline but below 1% in the MASTERS database. You shouldn't refer to the lichess DB, since there really is too much sillyness in it, ppl. trying out everything...
Bongcloud has no games in Masters database
> I personally wouldn't call something an "opening", if already the 3rd move (3. ...d6) is not even a sideline but below 1% in the MASTERS database. You shouldn't refer to the lichess DB, since there really is too much sillyness in it, ppl. trying out everything...
Bongcloud has no games in Masters database
@i-bex said in #9:
> Bongcloud has no games in Masters database
Absolutely true, but being played by MASTERS made it famous. If a noname had played this opening, nobody would be interested in it or even giving it a name that ppl or writers would use regularly.
It's similar to the Jobava (/Rapport/Bertramisch) London System - being played long time before but Jobava playing it and the Gingergm promoting and creating chess courses about it, just making it popular (again).
> Bongcloud has no games in Masters database
Absolutely true, but being played by MASTERS made it famous. If a noname had played this opening, nobody would be interested in it or even giving it a name that ppl or writers would use regularly.
It's similar to the Jobava (/Rapport/Bertramisch) London System - being played long time before but Jobava playing it and the Gingergm promoting and creating chess courses about it, just making it popular (again).
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